女性さん「痴漢を安全ピンで刺そう!相手はクズだから大丈夫」←賛否両論に


1 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 21:53:36.90 ID:bcj51ku50●.net BE:842343564-2BP(2000) [1/1回]

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安全ピンで痴漢撃退はアリ?過剰防衛? マンガめぐり議論 https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20190524-00010020-abema-soci

マンガで紹介された“痴漢対策”に賛否が集まっている。

Twitterに投稿された「人生初めての痴漢被害にあった時保険の先生が言ったこと」というマンガ。中学生の時に電車で痴漢にあい、その話を保健の先生に相談したところ「無理に声を出さなくていい。 でも何もしないのはダメ」と安全ピンで刺して撃退することを勧められたという。

投稿者は「でも血出るし」とあわてふためくが、その先生は「痴漢している時点でそいつはクズ」「変態に慈悲はない」と切り捨てたという。

このツイートには16万件以上のいいねが寄せられているが、一方で危険だという指摘もあり

「刺すな!冤罪だったらどうする!」

「子どもの目に刺さったらどうする?」

「安全ピンで刺されておとなしくなるとは限らない。逆上するかも」

といった声があがっている。 さらに、それに対しての反論も巻き起こり

「声をあげても誰も助けてくれなかったから『今更』安全ピンがバズってるんじゃないですか? 女性だけの問題だと思わないでいただきたい」

「『安全ピンなんか刺さずに声上げろ』というのは、被害者の声なんか針に刺されたほども怖くないからですよね」

「痴漢が消えれば安全ピンは自然と必要なくなるんだよ」

など怒りの声があがっている。

痴漢に対して針で刺すという行為は“過剰防衛”になるのか。東京工業大学准教授の西田亮介氏は

「司法の観点でみると、過剰防衛のきらいが強いと思う。直接の報復合戦にならないよう仲裁に入るのが司法。一方で正当防衛は認められているので、その範囲におさめるように自分の身を守らないといけない」

との見方を示す。また、一番の問題は痴漢がなくならないことだとし、「痴漢を許さないということと反撃をすることは切り分けて考えたほうがいい」と述べた。

2 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 21:55:03.21 ID:Mn9IVX390.net [1/2回]

安全ピンで人刺せるのに声は出せないのか

3 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 21:55:28.11 ID:Ye76ECqG0.net [1/6回]

一瞬良いアイデアと思ってしまうが、

刺す相手が痴漢であるかどうかをどうやって確認するんだ?

619 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/25(土) 00:52:20.42 ID:z5AsgbAk0.net [2/2回]

>>3 刺してから考えろ

942 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/25(土) 04:26:20.11 ID:SG8SpvLi0.net [1/1回]

>>3 女さんが刺したら、そいつが痴漢だ 痴漢になってしまうんだ

11 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 21:59:03.42 ID:FzxDqiau0.net [1/2回]

暴行罪なんだよなぁ

16 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:00:35.70 ID:0tDrAzPI0.net [3/29回]

>>11 性的暴行してる人が、訴えるんなら訴えてみろw

95 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:19:34.18 ID:MghRXaYG0.net [1/2回]

>>11 傷害罪だし

だいたい丁寧に刺すならまだしも、混んでる電車で刺したら、

思った以上深く突き刺さって大事になるだろうよ

22 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:03:10.53 ID:gmHFBj0V0.net [1/3回]

たとえば安全ピンで刺された奴がそのあと化膿して大変な思いしたら誰の責任なの?

その安全ピンは清潔なのかw

23 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:03:16.71 ID:/DQsdLjz0.net [1/3回]

これ気持ちはわかるけどいろいろな意味で洗濯ばさみでつまむくらいにしておいた方がいいと思う。

逆上とか逆恨みでもされたら元も子もないし

108 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:21:59.53 ID:MghRXaYG0.net [2/2回]

>>23 逆上した痴漢に針奪われて逆に突き刺されるかもしれんしな

おもいっきり刺したら骨にまで達するかもしれんし、

胸とか腹とか延髄とか刺されたら危ない

25 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:03:27.60 ID:wWXDVjof0.net [1/1回]

HIV、肝炎、梅毒などたっぷり練り込んだ 安全ピンを刺せばいい

35 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:04:29.84 ID:atnraFei0.net [1/2回]

女って公共の場で結構攻撃的なのな

方が触れたくらいで思いっきり靴踏んづけてきた時は流石にぶん殴ってやったよ

45 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:05:37.98 ID:gmHFBj0V0.net [2/3回]

>>35 ワイは痴漢なんてしたことないけ

どおっぱいのデカいねーちゃんが必死におっぱいを防御するために

腕をワイの背中にひたすら押し付けてきてその日は1日中そこが痛かったで

36 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:04:34.56 ID:C7FoQlgr0.net [1/1回]

痴漢なんぞ変態なんだからこれぐらいはやらないと効果ないだろうな

37 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:04:35.66 ID:IOwZ684h0.net [1/4回]

ピンで刺される程度ならけつ触りますが

まんさん甘過ぎ

52 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:06:16.83 ID:0tDrAzPI0.net [7/29回]

>>37 慌てて手引っ込めるよw イテェっと言って自分ですとバラした奴もいるwww

42 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:05:16.19 ID:zUyxEoAt0.net [1/1回]

痴漢に間違われたらぶん殴っても無罪にしてくれや

49 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:06:03.20 ID:Bc6GtPtR0.net [1/1回]

狭いところで安全ピン出すって危険だからやめろ

54 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:06:24.00 ID:mVHHnoLK0.net [1/7回]

痴漢はミキサーにかけてトイレに流してしまえ

というのが女および痴漢しない男の総意ではないのか?

安全ピンごときでガタガタ言うとは貴様ら見損なった

56 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:07:02.34 ID:WW95hj5N0.net [1/1回]

この人毎日痴漢されてるらしいよ

ついでに猫アイコンでフェミ拗らせてる典型的な人

82 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[sage] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:15:34.06 ID:URgFbLfQ0.net [1/1回]

別に何してもいいんじゃね?

その後で痴漢は痴漢として裁かれ 安全ピンは傷害としてそれぞれ普通に裁かれるだけだよ

被害者が何でも許されるキチガイ国家じゃないし

124 : 名無しさん@涙目です。[] 投稿日:2019/05/24(金) 22:24:50.04 ID:fDqceUBi0.net [1/1回]

安全ピンだから安全に決まってる

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